i found you
yes, you did
i'll have to move rooms if you wanna chat, talk et cetera
eh just chat
[sleeping babies around]
when would you like to do it?
to utter responses?
just easy chat
i'm seding you the drawings and we chat
could be now, even, if you want
you caught me at a good time
i'm sending the drawing
click: awaiting instruction
where shall I start?
as you feel
i didn't give them name yet
i like order, maybe 1?
[these are intense]
okay good hope you feel it
i need a little more guidance
you want my gut feelings, what cards i relate them to, what i 'see', ... ?
all of that
it's more about symbolic reading
is it difficult?
every tarot has a different symbolic web
every person has a variant twist
it's a precise science
what 'blocks' me is the intent of the hand. it is holding something, but also putting pressure thru the nail to a point
it seems to be leaving a trace
inside the hand
cornstalks appear here & there in the tarot, often as a sign of material processes
creativity of earth. i guess the hand might be directing those processes
[you tell me when to slide into the next key/card/img]
i have no interpretation of the rings
does the hand symbolise the strength?
a certain strength, sure. but it's unknown to me whether that strength is 'put on' or 'actually there'... i.e. 'a show of strength' or 'a strength that is there but need not show itself'
it might, now that you've pointed me there, relate to the image of the card VII (or XI depending on your tarot deck)
strength/power/force classically depicted as a women holding a lion's mouth
the 'spots' on the skin, might be interpreted as sweat, further corroborating the idea of force (puissance)
[is this the kind of language-ing that you were intending?]
also it s not exactly cornstalk but weath
yes it's perfect
like a free talk
is it okay for you?
yeah, feels comfy
every tarot card could be spoken about for hours tho, hah
yes it's very complex
that sun doesn't look happy, & the warrior/soldier is kneeling tho holding their weapon...
so there's something in the direction of surrender
but not the kind of ecstatic (georges bataille like) surrender that become erotic (or madonna-like)
there's something erotic in almost all of them
yeah, it's still erotic even though not total xtc
i wonder if 'the sword' stands for a musical instrument
because it resembles a recorder
but not held in a way that it is being played
i get the feeling of 'giving up' / 'defeat'
as a kind of sword
or a kind of stand by
cause the mood of the sun changes
[sorry if i'm taking too long]
don't bother about anything pls
i like the spacing & the ambiguous movement.
are the lines floating up or dropping down?
i think i will switch the image
more as a fountain
falling down, a kind of palmtree
i get that... it's a beautiful collection of repetitive pattern
yes maybe seeds
dispersion, distribution, dissipation
i think this one is not finished yet
as emeline is a french word too as i assume
what would you add?
i will reshape it
and give it more of a shape of an explosion, a fountain
flower can be a lot of things
that's for sure
it signs love
i love snails. Des coquilles
this one is more sweet
& their love darts
it's very sweet, that's clear
it's like a cupido scene
i guess tarot-wise, it could be VI. the lovers. but also links with IX. the hermit
prefer the hermit
hermit links with internal direction
also the colour?
at the begining i was into colors meanings
but as i said it's not too linked with the true science of tarot
it said that blue is emotion
yeah, no problem, variants on responses to the tarot
ah! i didn't even see the blue till now
because of many manipulations applied to them
i'm unfamiliar with that specific alignment (blue=emotion; red=action)
but that makes sense
so bluemotion is protective/safe/home & the red appears at the exterior (outside the shell)
i treat them not very well all the time
some tarot-ists would interpret the direction of the spin of the shell, i don't know how
do you know anything about the color of the skin?
yes, also the right and left of the card?
yeah, right/left has too many variants in differing decks... for me
i don't know about the snail's skin tint, no…
the moon watches over the labyrinth: an intuitive maze
or subconscious riddle
something oozes out, red (action?). is it ariadne's thread?
a snake & a labyrinth... interesting combination
(trad) snake = 'knowledge'
so perhaps this relates to II. the high priestess
lunar knowledge. initiations. subconscious productivity
what is it about the high priestess exactly?
the high priestess is a card of veils, of being initiated into traditional knowledge (tora), of letting the unconscious do
like when you get to forget a name & want to remember it
instead of trying to recall it, you let yourself deal with it
more... or next?
less is more
there's something about the fuzzed edges too
less is less than more, also
i don't want to take all your time
[is it still helpful?]
what about the fuzzed edges?
yes it is
i'm not sure how to interpret them exactly, but there's a fade in tarot 5 that alludes to a sort of shifting
oooo, cute ones
6 makes more sense as the lovers, i guess
but as i feel i will not give them name of real tarot card, to compose stories it's interesting
for sure, they'll be just like 'divination cards’
use any words here as you like, yes
they look really comfy on their lil log
chirping together, but not to one another
somehow makes me warm; cuddle-desire
but something about the eyes
one of them has a double face
yeah, that aspect is slightly disturbing... which most lovers’ cards also have
in which sense?
indecision or the need to make a decision (that's why there's usually 2 on the card somehow) is a common interpretation
for 6, lovers, with that decision there comes anxiety & other associated feels
disturbing because the double face is a 'sad' face
not really sad
maybe the partnership is an unhappy one; maybe their 'singing ensemble' is actually an impossibility of communication
(how easy it turns)
rather none expression
maybe their log is too small & they want to be elsewhere & otherwise
indifference in relationships can cause disturbance
or ones feels someone observe them
you're saying the orange one is dominant…
i didn't say anything like that
do you feel that?
if one 'feels someone observe them', i think the red is observing the yellow & the yellow isn't doing much about that
so that breeds the possibility of a power imbalance
do you think it’s about domination?
i don't, actually, no
also, if they are a unit & one observes the other... it can be quite unfair
[we continue on...]
this one’s also the lovers
more in balance
tarot 7, you mean?
but i will let you say
ah yes, i see it
entwined coquilles with a touch of red (action)
it's quite sexy, in a soft way
a balanced erotic
i like the way the lines on the top fit
somehow it adds more balance
[I feel I will have to be occupied soon by a child, maybe we speed up thru the others? a friend's child]
whenever you want
also a flower, no?
with many many seeds
'possible [future] traces'
the same kind of flower as in the tarot 2
and tarot 10
mhmm, with the skin tone of the previous solo snail
[feel free ask if you want further descriptions, also...]
tarot 9... do i look at both white & black?
it’s the same
a sheath with a beautiful heart. perhaps it evokes commitment
a desire to be (somewhat) bound or, at least, in sympathy with another (or others) as a form of committed love
but also, the flowers, in order to be tied, need to be pulled out of the ground
i don't get that feeling from tarot 9, but there's a possibilty to interpret it in that direction
it’s a crow
what kind of feeling do you have
shall i go to the next1?
2 more, no? 10 & 11 and verso?
the verso will be the same for every cards
the skin resembles the skin of the hand in tarot 1
this makes sense of kabbala-style 10 = 1+0 = 1 resonance
a butterfly(?) juts out of someone’s ass
i'm not sure how to interpret this one
we can pass this
but feel free
it’s the same flower
becoming a puppet
or just submissive
then i guess it's clear enough
nothing related to tarot?
hanged man, sort of
also a kind of spell
but hanged man is more of self-sacrifice
here it feels more like submission for/to another
but yes it’s more positive
ah yes, it is the verso, but more explicit. cornucopia & abundance
yes it’s clear
as for tarot, it could be III. the emperess or XXI, the universe/world
both provide (are 'providers')
the white peppers
but i don't have anything to add about them
i dont' see white peppers
what are they? one at the bottom, one on the right
ah yes, cornus
so i think we've done the tour
i hope that was helpful
i wasn't expecting to get to it so swiftly, but i'm glad we did
the guided tour
i’m glad too!
so do you accept me using this
i mean our conversation
how do you feel about that
take my words as your own, if you like, even
… about what we did
i feel like tarot 6 or tarot 3
...maybe 4 too
is very good
will you keep me looped into where it goes?
great. i'm curious
and if you like one of them i can send it to you
for now it's for a publication online
f you send one, tarot 7
that will become real
perhaps we will intersect one day
thank you so much for your time
no problem. thanks for asking me to take part
have a good evening/sleep & sweet dreams. see you in the future
yes i really appreciate this
[children are here, perfect timing]
for you too
DIVINATION CARDS by EMELINE DEPAS are premiered on GUEST ROOMS.
This new series of work consists of 12 images, inspired by iconography used in divinatory practices. As intended by the artist, one emblem is assigned to each card. 🕷The spider's web signifies dream; ⚡️ Lightning — revolt; ☮️ Peace sign earring — love; 🐍 Snake — knowledge. These symbolic representations are semantic structures allowing the viewer to interpret given images.
The images are presented alongside a script from a chat conversation between a professional diviner and the artist, where the diviner offers a tarot reading involving the cards created by the artist.
Special acknowledgements: LENDL BARCELOS and LAURIANE DETIEGE
Using various methods and references, the artist ultimately transforms her drawings into the three-dimensional sketches. EMELINE DEPAS's (1987, BE) work challenges the standard separation of artistic media. Depas draws, paints, cuts and recomposes iconographic elements from the pile of images of our time. Their references, however, are lost or tossed, stuttering and sometimes tending towards abstraction. Important are the procedures that are likely to make an image, or the delay or the suspension of forms. Alongside the pop- and humour flavoured compositions that characterize many of her collages and paintings, these days the artist engages in a more formal but no less sensitive research of tensions that might generate a relativization of the classical relationship between subject and background — BENOIT DUSART. Depas studied painting at L'École nationale supérieure des arts visuels (ENSAV) de La Cambre, Brussels and KASK School of Arts, Ghent. Her work was recently presented by Komplot, Brussels (solo and in collaboration with Julien Saudubray) and Sub Rosa Space, Athens and others.
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